So here Thor admits that not even he could change what had already been written by the Fates, and thus by Those Who Sit Above In Shadow. Having been an Avenger and also knowing many Asgardian warriors, the thunder god had many powerful allies to call for help. And from that Chaos came to be a single spark of light and Order. After getting wind of whats happening, Thor steps in -- though hes actually in a weakened state at the time the events are unfolding. Thor has many universal feats. After the battle, he felt a presence calling him in the now-abandoned City of Asgard. One is the God of Thunder and son of Odin, the other is a gamma-irradiated rage monster that gets stronger the madder he gets. The World Serpent, or Jormungand, is the son of Loki and the sorceress Angerboda. He simply brought down the walls that kept Asgard safe. https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11139/111396494/7759560-1669771519-main-qimg-4c274bb2d756aaed4332f611e9cb80ce.jpg. Def above planetary. Once there was even a kind of map given about it. Lol Nice downplay, Yggdrasil has been confirmed multiple times to be an all encompassing, extra-dimensional Cosmic structure thats connected to all planes of reality. Armed with the Belt of Power and every utility device thats popped up over the years to boost his power, Thor increases his own might to impossible levels and defeats two of his greatest foes back-to-back. With Thor victorious, he goes off to cause chaos elsewhere. And from the union of Ouranos and Gaia came the Titans. He also has resisted Mephisto tier sound destruction,or Mephisto tier magic. Once there was even a kind of map given about it. Knowing that anyone and everyone with a hunger for power might be attracted to the light, like moths to a flame, Odin sends Thor into the portal to retrieve the Worldheart, a kind of seed that was born from the power and holds incalculable energy as it is the soul of the All-God. It's probably something akin to what happened in Mark Waid's History of the Marvel Universe, where Galactus and Franklin sited at the birth of a new creation and the last of the previous ones. Despite this, Silver Surfer still managed to defeat the demon quite handily. https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11139/111396494/7759602-1251588835-main-qimg-ae67812a25fd1e29bb11de033d0f548b.jpg. No. The MCU may have many believing Thanos to be the most powerful Marvel character, but here are 10 reasons why Silver Surfer deserves that title. With strength beyond measure, just his name is enough to cause most civilizations to cower. I mean depending on how you powerscale anyone* in marvel does. If the latter would ever have any chance of defeating his master, he would have to use much cunning in addition to the full extent of his cosmic abilities. Though Thor gets top billing when it comes to godly superheroes in the Marvel Universe, hes hardly the only divine champion on the planet. Simon Walterson had a rough go at life after he lost his wife and unborn child. Realizing hes about to lose, Mongoose flees and destroys a couple of the skyscrapers support pillars while he escapes. Anyway, Lady Sif and Beta Ray Bill are the first of Thors friends to find the thunder god, discovering hes hanging out on some distant world. This is just bizarre to me. https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11139/111396494/7759580-3531498011-main-qimg-18388c716218443fa6f3ea4156cb485c.png, https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11139/111396494/7759581-9873108671-main-qimg-7da139cca77942e86c9c46ba0eeec5c8.jpg. When the criminals come out of their ship, they do so with jetpacks on their backs and all manner of offensive weaponry. Mangog is the physical embodiment of an entire race that was killed by Odin and channels the strength of a billion billion being. Special worlds without a doubt but they are still part of the universe at large. Their battle grows fiercer with each passing second until Umar catches Thor in an energy field that has the constricting strength equal to the weight of 20 planets. Celestials wouldn't plee and they wouldn't simply sit and let Thor ruin their plans. This. The Silver Surfer was able to succeed on both of these fronts, outsmarting, then defeating Galactus. Where you can see in the map shown above that the map in the previous scan was still valid. You can see that Asgard is even given a scale of size. He did nothing universal, less alone multiversal. Yet Mongoose was, and is, nowhere near Thors level of power. The embodiment of the Sky was named Ouranos (people know it better as Uranus). Let me say this right off the bat, No. Now Destroying the Loom is not the same as actually directly defeating Those Who Sit Above In Shadow. Funny enough Loki himself had already theorized that Those Who Sit Above In Shadow, were actually created through the worship of the Asgardians themselves. He found his love of writing and love of comics at a young age, making it his passion ever since. While Captain America and the Avengers end up battling the X-Men on Earth, Cap has sent a team of heroes, including Thor, Beast, War Machine, Ms. Marvel, and a couple others, to try and fight the Phoenix off in space. In Warp World, each soul paired with another, causing many mixtures of characters across the universe. Towards the end of the event, the Hulk and Thor run into each other and start fighting. And God saw that the light was good. But honestly i don't care. This isn't an bad showing for them, it's a good showing for Thor. I guess shaking dimensions and busting universes are unimpressive cuz of people like Hulk and IronClad trading blows along the crossroads and Dark Cho's 123.2 richter scale achievement. Many heroes are caught off guard and only survive by the skin of their teeth. Still, Thor managed to crack the Celestials skull, something no mortal has accomplished. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. And unlike what some have made it seem, what he did was simply open a path to where the kingdom of Asgard lies. Thor (Marvel Comics) | Character Profile Wikia | Fandom The Ultimate Universe was Marvels attempt at transforming their characters to be more realistic and relatable to the times. Its about time RKT getting a debunking thread. There are infinite planes of reality. They knew that one day they would have to battle the Fourth Host of Celestials, so they forged forge the ultimate weapon. Moondragon is known as one of the most powerful psychics in the universe. If you followed the ancient Greek ways then in the beginning there was only Chaos. And God saw that the light was good. The weird things is that the Mind Valkyrie is actually the manifestation of Thors subconscious given form, which makes things peculiar as Thor kisses the Mind Valkyrie later on. He has used his raw power to dispatch some of the most powerful enemies in the multiverse. 2023 GAMESPOT, A FANDOM COMPANY. Thor: Love & Thunder hit theaters July 7, which introduces Jane Foster as Thor to the MCU. Recruiting multiple supervillains he dubs The Prime Movers, Lokis team is made up of Doctor Doom, the Red Skull, Magneto, Wizard, Kingpin, and the Mandarin, and each of them is then tasked with fighting heroes they normally dont interact with. And wow, did someone really say that? A feat few Marvel heroes could hope to accomplish. Sure Jan. there's no context of the death of a multiverse though.. Still that tree is back. He instead helps Surtur and his forces lay waste to his land and people. The two gods arm-wrestle with everything they have until the plateau they are on crumbles under the force of the pressure theyre applying. To those unfamiliar with the Silver Surfer, he is the herald of Galactus and imbued with the Power Cosmic. I think the former might be the same guy again. Although the Surfer was not strong enough to overpower Durok, he used his cosmic abilities and cunning wit to defeat the monster nonetheless. If you followed the ancient Greek ways then in the beginning there was only Chaos. The Incredible Hulk is one of the strongest beings in the Marvel universe. They were Celestials. Olympus in order to fight Ares. A structure within the universe. They are part of the universe and don't exist apart from it. Yggdrasil is infinite in its complexities and Heimdall sees all of space and time in it. Thor is immediately bombarded with the force of a neutron star, the gravity of which is 200 billion times that of Earth! Born from the species known as the Eternals, Thanos was an anomaly to his people. Cope? In fighting against the wheel of the Worldengine, Thor would be fighting against the combined power of the Tree and the Engine itself, but Thor does not care and fights against the impossible. Beta Ray Bill is the champion of the Korbinites, a race whose home was destroyed by Surtur. The combination of the countless Eternities of individual universes form a multiversal iteration of Eternity. The plan is actually pretty solid and in the hands of anyone outside of villains, it would work. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Hes immortal, imperious to the majority of earthly weapons, and hes one of the greatest fighters of any age. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QNxt3kobWIY. Pure adamantium is so powerful that beings like the Hulk can barely even dent it, much less break it. Capable of fighting Thor and even the Hulk, Hercules is also one of the most powerful members of the Avengers. both are at full power; win by death; 10 weeks of prep; morals off; all feats, scans, scaling and statements allowed Now Destroying the Loom is not the same as actually directly defeating Those Who Sit Above In Shadow. Composite Hal Jordan (DC) vs Composite Thor (Marvel) And has already begun the initial process to begin destroying it. And so he does. They were Celestials. In spite of it, Exitar is undeterred. However, in The Mighty Thor #309, the God of Thunder proves more than up for the task. Lol you're selectively going back and forth between depictions of the 9 Realms to forward different points. The explosion knocks out Thor and goes so far as to throw Galactus, one of the mightiest beings in the Marvel Universe, off-balance. Galactus is a massive cosmic being that consumed planets to sustain his powers. isn't Rui Silva the guy who generally underrates Lucifer and Thor??? If you are a Christian or Catholic, then God created from his own light the Kingdom of Heaven. Written by Tom DeFalco and Ron Frenz, the tale featured Thor and Hercules standing high atop a plateau on a far-off planet, where they would arm-wrestle one another to finally put an end to the question about who was stronger. The Skrulls invaded Asgard, which happened to be floating just a few feet above the ground of Arizona, realizing they needed to defeat the gods if they wanted to conquer the planet. This energy was so powerful that, once it reached a nearby planet, it starting accelerating that planet's evolutionary processes. More so the Silver Surfer himself points out that Asgard is simply part of Universe 616. His job undone, Thor enters Exitars head and performs another of his all-time greatest feats: Tying his Belt of Power around Mjolnir to focus his energies, Thor unleashes his God Blast, hitting Exitars brain with the all of his lifeforce. This is not anywhere near multiversal, tbh. Follow 17364. . After some fighting and debate on who should wield the hammer, Odin designed a new one for Beta Ray Bill and named it Stormbreaker. RK Thor essentially discovered their Kryptonite and used it to end their hold on the fate not just of Asgard but apparently the nine realms as well. Towards the end of the battle, it appeared as though Cable was going to win. Old King Thor often refers to 616 Thor as his "past self" and has insinuated . As Spider-Man confronts Mongoose, Jarlson changes into Thor. Thor was totally okay with this plan, and Hitler took it up a notch, saying the only forces who could oppose them is the Invaders. The man who paved the way for World War II and inhuman atrocities, it certainly stands to reason that many people have forgotten the time that Thor teamed up with the mad tyrant. So here Thor admits that not even he could change what had already been written by the Fates, and thus by Those Who Sit Above In Shadow. Meaning its actually smaller than a planet. Before they part ways, Thor and Hercules, realizing they need to close the gateway, each deliver a punch to the portal, their blows impacting upon part of the universe itself, closing the rift. I always thought it was just Galan being reborn from the big bang. The Black Winter devoured the sixth iteration of the cosmos, leaving only a single survivor - Galan of Taa, who it chose as its Herald. The sheer weight of the Serpent is uncertain, but at the very least, its not in the billions of tons, rather its weight is in the trillions of tons. ''He survived the death of a multiverse'' This has so many broad explanations that is laughable, or I am missing context here? Debunking Rune King Thor | FanVerse And from that Chaos came to be a single spark of light and Order. Thor, the God of Thunder, is unquestionably not only one of Earths mightiest heroes, but one of the most powerful forces for good throughout the whole universe. great thread so far hopefully this whould clear misconceptions about this version of thor, as for discord no its arguably way better than the entirety of debating forums if you actually look for good servers (obviously not ones that focuses on arguing), >Surtur hesitates to reforge Mjolnir because he thinks Thor's gonna murder him with it. comics and manga would probably be in better place if forums like this didn't exists.