The New IFB is an attempt to revive the former glory and orthodoxy of the Independent Fundamental Baptists, a movement that arose in the mid-20 th century in reaction to fears that mainstream. It is a Bible Baptist church. He is his own man and refuses to be tied down or corralled by anything. She gave me a five-minute counseling session and told me she would have to tell Pastor Schaap and the nurse, inform the doctor. Thou shalt be baptized by full immersion in this particular denomination of church, preferably this specific church, otherwise it might have been a false baptism that didnt take. Shellnut also draws on Messiah College historian John Feas description of these independent fundamentalist Baptists, so lets turn to that. Let us always bear in mind that the IFB no more represents Christianity than the Taliban represents Islam. Zichterman recounts seeing an interview on television featuring Carolyn Jessop and realizing, for the first time, that the IFB was a cult. It is therefore literally true that God created the world in six 24-hour days; Satan is real, the enemy of God, and the instigator of all false religions; the theory of evolution is unscriptural and therefore without merit; hell is a real place where all who die without having accepted Christ as their Savior suffer consciously being roasted alive for eternity, and so on. Note how Jerry Falwell Jr. and Liberty University no longer identify as fundamentalist, but as evangelical and note how this assertion is accepted, unquestioned, by other evangelicals. Pray tell, Kathy, what are you going to tell me about the Bible that I dont already know? Enforcing King James only-ism down the throats in some of their groups. We took sweet fellowship together. The Star-Telegram discovered at least 412 allegations of sexual misconduct in 187 independent fundamental Baptist churches and their affiliated institutions, spanning 40 states and Canada. New Independent Fundamentalist Baptist churches (also known as the New IFB) or officially the New Independent Fundamental Baptist Movement are an association of conservative, King James Only, independent Baptist churches. Will you join us? True Independent Fundamental Baptist Churches uphold the purest teachings of the early church as revealed in the New Testament." . I pray for all of you. Dispensationalism is common among Independent Baptists. Remove that variable from the equation and youll never arrive at the form or content of IFB fundamentalism as it currently exists. A minority of Baptists contend that Baptist churches originated in the first century, deducing their claim from the fact that Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist. Let me stress here at the beginning that this is not about churches affiliated with the Southern Baptist Convention; those Baptist churches are thought to be too liberal by the independent fundamentalists. It upheld what it believed to be the true spirit of fundamentalism amid changes in the conservative Protestant landscape. Bruce, you and many of those that comment to your posts are a help to me. If the crying turns to a true, wounded, submissive whimper, you have conquered; he has submitted his will. For one, they lack a unified presence since individual churches largely operate on their own. Thou shalt wear the sweatshirts & caps of your favorite basketball team; they are only evil & worldly if you choose to go to college there. Oh, did I mention we were homeschooled and socially retarded. They repented and were restored..every like 6 mo. You served them that way. The investigation is ongoing. Answer (1 of 2): The Fundamental Baptists that my Family and myself have been around varied wildly; some were more strict than others, while some were more lax with the rules they imposed on themselves and others. This is an independent fundamental Baptist program that has chapters in churches all across the country. Im sure that if your God is all about love and grace he will know our hearts better than you and will fully understand in his 3-omni way. I vaguely recognize some of the standards that you mentioned, but not to the extreme that you have described them. This is 100% the independent Baptist school I attended. Say the name of that group several times, slowly, and let it all sink in New. The Star-Telegram discovered at least 412 allegations of sexual misconduct in 187 independent fundamental Baptist churches and their affiliated institutions, spanning 40 states and Canada. Of course not. And like everyone else in the world you want that love to mean something, to be incorporated into and desired by something worthy of it. Bruce is now a humanist and an atheist. He might not be guilty of the allegation, but notice how the church network is still allowing a man publicly accused of sexual abuse to minister. a couple of Greek Orthodox nuns are protesting the reinstatement of a priest, Todays Psychology Cant Help American Men. For decades, women and children have faced rampant sexual abuse while worshiping at independent fundamental Baptist churches around the country. It really is that simple. The pastor, Jack Trieber, dressed in a yellow tie and matching pocket square, reached into his pocket to put on his glasses before reading a statement that allegations of inappropriate conduct had been made against Giovanelli. Black people bear the indelible and wretched curse of the "mark of Cain.". Other Christians who were once, or who would once have been, clearly a part of the fundamentalist camp Al Mohler, Ken Ham, David Barton, etc. #1. Thus the words "Independent" and "Fundamental . All first-time comments are moderated. My wife did not waste time finding a cure. However there has been quite a problem with some fundamental Baptists. You ought to repent of this attitude and behavior while you are yet alive and repair your relationship with a God who undoubtedly still loves you, and stop taking an active hand in encouraging others to sin against a Holy God and ensuring their damnation. I've heard of Dan Souza, but that's about all. * Maybe some can relate to this cartoon from NAKEDPASTOR. Refusing to cooperate with other members in the Church. There are other problems among fundamentalist Baptists as well as Homophobia : "I told her that I was raped and how violent it was and how I was terrified it would happen again. Where you claim what's true. This is why I love Jesus. Its pastor is divinely appointed and accountable to no earthly authority. Twenty-one abuse allegations were uncovered exclusively by the Star-Telegram, and others were documented in criminal cases, lawsuits and news reports. This letter is in downloadable as a PDF here. Most of us have seen situations in the workplace, or in our families, in which whistleblowers were despised and cast out for telling the truth about a situation that threatened people within the group. The reason why Im so fervent, so passionate about it this morning is because I relived all of those feelings of what its like to be abused and the one that does the abuse is the one that always comes out the other side smelling like a rose and goes down the road to another church so he can do it again to somebody else.. concerned about creeping liberalism in that association, it opted to go it alone. KJV was the only Bible in English, and that is the stand I intend to die on. America needs great Independent Baptist churches again. Grace alone. The church shall pray for her to get right with her lord (and her pastor). He did not respond to specific questions that were sent to him. I got a good laugh reading the list brought back some not so good memories from my time in a IFB church. #1. I really want to write a book or start a podcast about all this shit at some point. Think, learn, and dont be a judgmental asshole. Thanks! Your word is final. This list sounds alot like the Mennonite Church rule book. That is their unforgiveable sin. We were, I suppose, fundamentalist with evangelical highlights. Thou wilt pledge money on the last Sunday evening of every month to the building fund even if you cant pay your rent or mortgage on the first. He witnessed the same authoritarian approach. Transportation Services Coordinator. Independent Fundamental Baptist churches believe that the authority to baptize was given to the first church, organized by our Savior. In any case, we are definitely living in the end times before the 2nd coming of Christ. Addendum: Thousand shalt not even THINK about piercing ANYTHING below the waste! When he spoke out, other pastors condemned him. Jesus gave us the command to preach the Gospel and also to baptize those who have believed on Jesus. A case in which an adult woman publicly accused a prominent pastor of having manipulated her at age 16 into giving him oral sex and having an adulterous relationship: When Giovanelli resigned from Golden State Baptist College after the abuse allegation went viral, the chancellor of the college and the pastor of its affiliated church asked the congregation to pray for the church, the college, and the Giovanelli family. Tags: Independent Fundamental Baptist The Gospel Kent Brandenburg's Assessment of Independent Baptists By Jim Apr 29 2015 Other than Toledo, the 419 area code is pretty rural. We may read these stories of sexual abuse in churches, and tell ourselves that if something like that happened in our church, we would stand up for what is right. Thou shalt go to KFC on Sundays after services. While neo-evangelicals sent their kids to Wheaton College or Fuller Theological Seminary, fundamentalist Baptist kids went toBob Jones UniversityorPensacola Christian College. A bit later can you guess where this is going? Jesus gives his own list in the Sermon on the Mount and Matthew 24/25. You are a lying snake and lost as Hogan's goat." Pastor Tom Cassidy, First Baptist Church, Spring Valley, CA See where Im going with this? Fritts' church is affiliated with The New Independent Fundamental Baptist Movement and is listed along with 29 others on the movement's website, which explicitly states that it is not a denomination. He and his wife have six grown children and thirteen grandchildren. Women not wearing pants, women not working, women being not allowed to speak up in church, have any sort of leadership role, etc. Maybe you would. They used you as fodder in the war between themselves and everything they fear. Thousands have come to the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ because one man followed in obedience where the Lord led. Then Hyles would yell from the pulpit that If the barn needed paintingand the men would hoopla with their Bibles waving in the air. Aug 10, 2008. They didn't sacrifice who they were. An Independent Fundamentalist Baptist Hate List Bruce Gerencser November 13, 2020 Evangelicalism 58 Comments The Bible says in 1 John 2:15,16 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. Jack Hyles preached at our Christian school (1978) and Proclaimed that it was a sin for a boy to wear anything but white underwear, and also a sin if a boy didnt have his hair buzz cut on the back ! The message is set. So men cant have facial hair but women can? (And yes, martial arts are ok, even though they originated from Asian sources; well win those yellow devils to Jesus, eventually). I have tried to overlook them, but they won't go away. Young-earth creationism, premillennial dispensationalism, and fervent support for segregation are also not core doctrines that could be found among Christians before the 19th century or anywhere outside of IFBs parochial American context. It uses the Bible to "treat" everything from porn addiction to drug addiction. Thou shalt not look at pornography, and if thou dost thou shalt delete thy browsing history so thy wife of thy youth dost not find it, and thou shalt confess thy sins at the alter on Sunday morning.Thou canst repeat this cycle each week for the lord hast made provision for modern man if he dost confess his sins before god each day and every Sunday. His manner of teaching is rough and salted with racist comments about Black folks. 2023 BuzzFeed, Inc. All rights reserved. The person should go to the pastor, and the pastor will talk to the offender. Meant to be taken literally, the KJV is inspired, inerrant, infallible, and the supreme and final authority in all things. Landmarkism began as a movement in the mid-1800's mainly in the Southern Baptist Convention. although it is rushed and depends on the persons' response. Though not all in the movement look the same, the Duggars showcase several theological and cultural distinctives common among independent fundamental Baptists: adhering to strict biblical inerrancy, usually based exclusively on the King James Version (KJV); homeschooling; abstaining from pop culture as entertainment; and dressing modestly. https://www.nakedpastorstore.com/blogs/news/adoring-pastors. A one-foot ruler, or its equivalent in a paddle, is a sufficient alternative. Students may be expelled at any time, for any reason, if the president of the school deems the reason sufficient (my 2nd grade brother was expelled for defiance). For decades, women and children have faced rampant sexual abuse while worshiping at independent fundamental Baptist churches around the country. You trusted. This series needs to be widely read but, unfortunately, the Star-Telegramsshort-sighted, inflexible paywall will prevent that from happening. On the bare legs or bottom, switch him eight or ten licks; then, while waiting for the pain to subside, speak calm words of rebuke. They also typically teach that the translators of the . When the apostles, the first members of the first church, and others went out preaching the Gospel and establishing other churches, this authority was transferred to them. Independent Fundamental Baptists (IFB) is a loosely-affiliated, cultish denomination of Christian fundamentalists. Ug, stupid auto correct. If they really loved God they would have loved you and everyone else in a manner befitting that love: properly, carefully, consistently. In America, a former member of the Church of England, Roger Williams, separated from officials in the Massachusetts Bay Colony over his belief about church functions. Part of HuffPost Religion. Advent Calendar Day 17: Fair and foul are near of kin, TRENDING AT PATHEOS Progressive Christian, Independent Fundamentalist Baptists are a creepy, creepy bunch. Ugh. Like the millions of others around the country who need to read these stories, they wont be able to unless they subscribe to a newspaper hundreds of miles from where they live. It started as part of the Northern Baptist convention but, concerned about creeping liberalism in that association, split away to join the Conservative Baptists. A world where you say what is and isn't good. Praise god amen we were unharmed.except for being fucked mentally for years. If you're unfamiliar with the beliefs and practices of the Independent Fundamental Baptists, some of them are: IFBs also generally believe that the will of a child must be broken before it ever has a chance to develop: a fussing or crying baby is exerting its selfish will. Baptism therefore represents the Gospel, which consists of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus. Dented, maybe, a little -- but definitely not broken. sigh Do you realize how offensive your words are to unbelievers; people who struggled and agonized over leaving Christianity? Some of the best godly preachers like Jonathan Edwards and Charles Haddon Spurgeon were Baptists. Because its in human nature, for one, and for another, because the clergy have an extraordinary amount of power (real and symbolic) within the ecclesiology of both churches.